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slickaz
12-09-13, 12:36 PM
Are all Jeep's sold in Australia Trail Rated?
I have a 2014 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 and my cousin in the states got one also, his has a Trail Rated badge, but we dont get that badge here.
so are we all TR trucks or none TR
Yes, especially the GC :" Fire-trail " rated! :highly_amused:Dont worry, I've got one. :frog:
More importantly is it mall rated? ;)
Just join the club, you get a SJC sticker.............
More importantly is it mall rated? ;)
Expect nothing less
Paul-JK
12-09-13, 09:04 PM
I'm not personally a fan of the bling, rubber band tyres & huge wheels but I can understand that there are some that like that sort of thing.....each to their own.....whatever floats your boat. What really stumps me though is why the hell would ever need a winch on the front of something like that? What's he gonna do, winch himself over the speed bumps? Weird!
Dieselcon
12-09-13, 11:11 PM
Are all Jeep's sold in Australia Trail Rated?
I have a 2014 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 and my cousin in the states got one also, his has a Trail Rated badge, but we dont get that badge here.
so are we all TR trucks or none TR
Yes I believe that all jeeps with 4wd are trail rated... Heard it on a doco
Yes I believe that all jeeps with 4wd are trail rated... Heard it on a doco
I dont think the compass is.
Paul-JK
13-09-13, 07:47 AM
I think it's probably more if a marketing exercise to be honest, but one that has more meaning in the states than it does here so they don't use it here (or as much).
Not sure where the origins of it came from and whether it was originally to do with the Rubicon Trail but I'm guessing it probably started before Jeep were making passenger cars though. Their website states "Jeep® Trail Rated® vehicles pass a series of grueling tests designed to prove off-road performance on the world's most demanding terrain". Obviously a grueling test for Patriot or even a Cherokee is probably not so grueling for a Wrangler so the severity of the tests must change for each model and therefore what the trail rated moniker means in terms of capability will change with each model.
That said, the vehicles we get here are basically the same vehicles available in the states (slight differences in accessories aside perhaps), so what is trail rated there would/should be equally trail rated here......i would have thought.
Paul-JK
13-09-13, 07:53 AM
I dont think the compass is.
Just looked at the Jeep website (http://www.jeep.com/en/jeep_capabilities/trail_rated/) and they have videos for each vehicle type explaining the 5 key aspects of what it is to be trail rated........and even the Compass is in there!
dobbo56
13-09-13, 11:20 AM
Every 4X4 Jeep must be able to conquer the Rubicon Trail in standard form to gain the Trail Rated badge. Some of the lesser Jeep's in the US are only basic road cars and don't get the off road extras, ie bash plates At tires , and lower gearing and the all important 4 wheel drive. The Rubicon Trail is the standard Jeep set, hence " Trail Rated" Doggy Dave.
Wooders
15-09-13, 10:22 AM
The Trail Rated is really just a marketing gimmick dreamed up by Chrysler.
IMHO if I bought a Jeep with one of those badges, I'd consider ripping it off.
Every 4X4 Jeep must be able to conquer the Rubicon Trail in standard form to gain the Trail Rated badge. Some of the lesser Jeep's in the US are only basic road cars and don't get the off road extras, ie bash plates At tires , and lower gearing and the all important 4 wheel drive. The Rubicon Trail is the standard Jeep set, hence " Trail Rated" Doggy Dave.
But which part of the trail though? Some trails are A+, whilst some there are Cs. Its just marketing I reckon.
http://youtu.be/xi321jyXt9I
Even Jeep Jamboree USA has a min req for participants for the Rubi Trail. Rated tow fr n rr, 33" tires, at the very least. I dont think the "trail rated" US GCs have any of that, especially when running 20" mall rated tires. :grief:
"VEHICLE REQUIREMENTS Rock rails, skid plates and tow points are mandatory for the Rubicon Trail. Skid plates are to be under the gas tank, transfer case, engine and transmission (three total). Tow points are MANDATORY! Tow points may include, tow hooks properly mounted to the frame with grade six/ eight bolts according to official Mopar installation procedures, draw bars, receiver hitches, or aftermarket bumpers with manufacturers installed clevis or d-ring anchor. If you do not have tow points, you may be turned away at registration without a refund. • No body lifts or suspension lifts over 6” combined. • No tires over 37”. A recommended height of 33” tires with a “C” rating and 3-ply sidewalls. • No snowplow frames. • We recommend removing running boards and steps both factory and aftermarket if planning to participate in higher rated trails. • All open-topped vehicles, including older models (CJs, Scramblers and Willys), must have mandatory roll bars. • Tow strap recommended (with loops—NO METAL HOOKS). • Full-size spare tire or comparable size mandatory! A space-saver spare (donut) just won't do. • Must be street legal with license plate.
The Trail Rated is really just a marketing gimmick dreamed up by Chrysler.
IMHO if I bought a Jeep with one of those badges, I'd consider ripping it off.
Wrong target demographic....now if they came out with a "Shed Rated" badge... :-)
slickaz
16-09-13, 01:18 PM
thanks guys, i asked because i came across the Jeep.com page mentioned earlier with the videos, and they have a bunch of videos for the GC. They state all TR vehicles have to go pass the A+ graded rubi trail in order to receive a TR badge.
So if my standard GC can take on an A+ trail, then why do i need to add upgrades is what i would like to know.
Sounds like a gimmick to me, so i thought i would ask before i go ahead and brag about it infront of my country friends and get that thing stuck in country mud and require a Wrangler to pull me out.
The way make it seem on that video though, that standard GC is conquering some serious boulders.
Paul-JK
16-09-13, 02:23 PM
Yeh, I'd say there's no way a stock anything will take on the harder lines of Rubicon Trail, or at least not without a winch and literally just dragging it through. After watching some of the Wayalife vids you can see how serious some of the trails are, and most of those guys are in JK's with 37" tyres minimum, 6" lifts, long arms, coil overs, and more flex that a Russian gymnast. I think the WK2 is a great car but you can't imagine it competing in that arena.......or even a stock JK for that matter.
As someone mentioned, there are likely bypass tracks around the worst of it so you can still do the Rubicon without having to climb over 4ft high boulders. I'm guessing they take these bypasses with most of the stock vehicles, taking ever increasingly easier bypasses with the smaller vehicles.
It's definitely a marketing tool but at the same time it does at least prove that Jeep have seriously thought about how their vehicles will handle off road which is probably a lot more than other manufacturers do.
Wooders
16-09-13, 02:25 PM
If you are talking this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MTWO2MCYKU
Again it's Jeep Marketing machine. For example the Compass in that clip (at about 45sec) is hardly what I would capacle of doing what I'd rade a C grade trip (in standard form).
Notice most of the "harder" bits are snipped of JK, with a few quick snippets of the other models. Don't get me wrong the new Jeeps are far more capable stock now than they used to be, and often more capable than their owners. But to claim a stock vehicle can do a A/B graded trip (without sustaining damage) is simply marketing folly.
thanks guys, i asked because i came across the Jeep.com page mentioned earlier with the videos, and they have a bunch of videos for the GC. They state all TR vehicles have to go pass the A+ graded rubi trail in order to receive a TR badge....
SJC rates trails using A-D, A being most difficult., JeepJamboree USA use 1-10, 10 being the most difficult and we did a challenge rated at 11!, so they say. To be honest, JJ USA's 11 was probably a B- in my opinion. With numerous trails and heaps less restrictions there, people just go out and do their own thing pretty much. JJ USA is mainly run to get owners who's never been out offroading to learn and appreciate what their Jeeps can do. It also caters for the more mature demographic segment and retirees who have time and money to travel the country with around 30 Jambos per year being run around the country. Not hard core at all. Much different flavour to our Jambo. Some of the trails whilst scenic are somewhat lame. Now, how Fiat Chrysler Jeep rates trails... Who knows? There isn't a set standard as such, I don't think. So their A+ ain't the same as our club's A+. Not same.. Simplezzz
Nixolus
26-09-13, 09:18 PM
Picked up my GP today and noticed that it does have the trail rated badge.
I'll get one of these when I get my JK to the wanted (no, REQUIRED haha) lift and flexyness:
http://www.pixeldecals.com/shop/image/cache/data/mall-rated-jk-400x400.jpg (http://www.pixeldecals.com/shop/image/cache/data/mall-rated-jk-400x400.jpg)
Picked up my GP today and noticed that it does have the trail rated badge.
Nahhhhh, You need this one Dan ! :shame:
dobbo56
27-09-13, 03:46 PM
Red Rubi needs this sticker...................:highly_amused:
Nahhhhh, You need this one Dan ! :shame:
Haha! You and I both mate!
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redrubi
28-09-13, 05:46 PM
Is there a "BEWARE NUDE DUDES!!!" sticker:hororr:
Thinking of getting a Rubicon Rating
http://youtu.be/hAIValZdnXM
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