so did you want to give me some details
am beginning putting the mag together now
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so did you want to give me some details
am beginning putting the mag together now
Just emailed you the details to your work and gmail account.
Cheers
Steve
OK
HERE WE GO, ROLL CALL!!
Who is competing? :twisted:
1. Me :lol:
ya wanna break your Jeep again
I will be part of your cheer squad
is Kath going
me and my friend Sharon are
all three cheering from the sidelines
go warren go warren go warren
i have a cheer squad :lol:
I dare say cat will go, depends how close i can find some 5 star facilities :lol:
so is that
2. BJ? :twisted:
Hey don't you have work to do
I do
just sneaking a peak on here
are you kidding me - I am not that brave YET?
just sleeping in a tent is going to be enough for me
unless you find the five star place and tell me where it is
I've got the information pack on the way so hopefully I'll have it for the meeting tomorrow. I've also told them we will be trying to field a team so keep a spot for us.
Cheers
Steve
You can put me down as a definate maybeeeeee at this stage :? Should have some of these PITA probs sorted by then :x .Looks like I may be looking for a navi as well... :roll: Who in their right mind would decide to have a wedding right in the middle of a comp long week end :twisted: :roll:
I'm free to navi for anyone that may need one.
Ben will let you know as soon as we find out for sure.
I'd definately be keen to have ago. That is assuming I get the jeep finished by then, and you guys actually let me join the club?? Fingers crossed i'll be able to attend the next meeting and say hello.
ok you can join the club AJ :twisted:
Touring Class
"Beadlocks not permitted."
"The number of axle location links can not be changed."
I can only assume that this class will allow Long Arm Suspension as the number of CA's are unchanged as long as no Triangluation kit is installed.
Would have to find another set of wheels as I have internal Beadlocks.
Is there many Pig Pen type bog hole type stages?? Not to keen on gloopy mud.
Willowglen has one biiiiiiiig mud run type event, mostly water in it though. The rest of the course are generally more technical though. I'd agree that longarms are probably allowed :) Looks like we might have a few new competitors this year, it's be great to see and I for one will be coming along to wave the SJC flag.Quote:
Originally Posted by ando_13
Cheers
Steve
wonder if my new torque arm (replaces rear uppers with single arm) bumps me up a class.... bah i don't care more fun, more carnage hahaha
Last time I checked it does but after the pecker I'm sure you can handle it Warren. :P Touring class pretty much drives the same course as Trophy any how..Quote:
wonder if my new torque arm (replaces rear uppers with single arm) bumps me up a class.... bah i don't care more fun, more carnage hahaha
If you were running the RE long arm in the past you couldn't run in Touring class.Not sure about this year..Would pay to check before handQuote:
I can only assume that this class will allow Long Arm Suspension as the number of CA's are unchanged as long as no Triangluation kit is installed.
But to tell you the truth it really dosen't make that much of a difference at Willowglen as in previous years tyre size is limited to 36.5 and anything over 33 automatically puts you into trophy class any way. Haven't had a real close look at this years rules yet This is a CCDA event so everyone has to be a member of the Cross Country Drivers Association for ins etc.You should be able to join on the day but you will have to check with the officials.
Here's one that is new this year and especially affects us Wrangler drivers:
4.7. Soft top or open top vehicles must have a roof covering the driver and
navigator. Roofs can be manufactured of:
a) Fiberglass or CFRP; or
b) 3mm alloy; or
c) 2mm mild steel or stainless.
Anyone interested check the rules out here
http://www.tlcc.com.au/tlcca/2007_Ch...booklet_A4.pdf
and CCDA here
http://ccda.4wd.org.au/cms/index.php...=getit&lid=121
Hope this didn't scare anyone off but better to know before hand what your up for rather than to get there and not pass scrutineering. This is one of the better run interclub events and a great starter for anyone who wants to get into the comp scene.It's also a fantastic weekend away for spectators..hint hint.... :wink:
i just sold my hardtop :lol:
i read that in the rules, i figured if you had some form of roll cage you would be sweet.... What about a plate bolted to a cage that just covers the front seats?
I am aiming for a 4 point harness, and tbt cage before the comp.
Warren even with a cage you still need the bit of tin over driver and navi.It's basically to stop any rocks and shrubbery ripping through the canvas in the event of a roll. it has been talked about for a long time but it finally looks like it is going to be enforced.I had to have it for Tuff truck in 2005 but it wasn't required for any other events we did...untill now.. :)
I'll have a look through my pics and see if I can find any of the cage/roof getting built to give you some ideas...
Thanks for the pics and info, that was what i was thinking of. Except that i want to make it easy to take out when on beach and the like.
who did your cage?
I am currently tossing up between a custom cage or a bolt in job like the toys by troy cage...
That was done by Kilby Enterprises down in Canberra got the number somewhere if you need it,he does a lot of off road race stuff and knows the cams rules pretty much back to front.the weld in job is pretty $$$$ especially when you add in engineers if I was to do it again I would probally go the bolt in easier and quicker. The tin top takes about 10 min to remove it's only bolted in place,we probally went over board with the bolts but as it's always on I didn't want it to rattle..
It's Lochleigh enterprises, and Rod Kilby is the guy ;)
He also built the cage in my old TJ.. Good bloke, excellent value for money..
If anyone in the club wanted a cage though, I could probably build something similar to that and we could work something out.
CCDA rules specify a CAMS compliant cage and have done so for years, but to my knowledge they've yet to enforce it. Theoretically the factory cage in a Wrangler is not sufficient, but I don't think they're going to knock anyone back on it. Tin plate in the roof is easy enough, just use the soft top mounts!
Steve, you should ring Tony Price and ask how strict they're being about the rules this year and what things we really need to comply with.
The 2 x 1L dry chem fire extinguishers is something they will enforce, so go get yourself some of those and mount them within reach of the driver/navigator.
I don't think they will be enforcing isolation switches.
They are very strict on flare coverage, so make sure you're all up to scratch on that.
Last I checked Athol wasn't in our club, so noone should be banned for any other reasons :lol:
see my post in EJ's cage build thread on AJOR :)Quote:
Originally Posted by maddog
hope not, don't wanna fit one ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by maddog
how strict are we talking?, i have 7" covering 35x12.5 radial claws on 3.75BS rimsQuote:
Originally Posted by maddog
If you put a broomstick on the ground on the outside of your tyre where it touches the ground and touch the flare with the other end of the stick you're fine. If the top of the tyre touches the stick before the flare then you do not have enough flare coverage.
This is how they measure it at competitions
Entries have to be in by the 20th of August.
All the details have now been posted here http://www.tlcc.com.au/tlcca/html/co..._info.html#How
Or let me know and I'll email you the entry pack as Tony has just sent it to me.
I can get the details for our club liability etc Do we have a 4 car team though?
Cheers
Steve
we need to know how strict they are going to be on cages.....
Anything specific? What sort of things do you want me to find out?Quote:
Originally Posted by arb87u
This is what the 'Rule Book' says, very broad.....
4.6. A soft-top or open top vehicle must include a rollover protection system.
4.7. Soft top or open top vehicles must have a roof covering the driver and
navigator. Roofs can be manufactured of:
a) Fiberglass or CFRP; or
b) 3mm alloy; or
c) 2mm mild steel or stainless.
Cheers
Steve
well the tj's have a basic cage but it is in no way cams complaint. If we can confirm that the stock TJ cage is suitable (if stock is ok, everything else is) we can try and lock down numbers. People with a hardtop and a stock cage are set, people with softtops just need a plate which can be made up to attach to the door surrounds (the two bolts that hold em on).
Other than that issue AJ wanted to know if a long arm kit that is not triangulated and retains the OE CA mounts and the number of mounts have not changed will get him into the 33" or less class.
And anything else you might be able to think of, the last thing we want is to get 4 trucks and have one turned away on the day putting the whole team out of the comp. With clarification of these few points more people might come forward to compete :)
Ok, I'll go ask these questions and try and get something back in writing.
Cheers
Steve
Not sure if you meant me Warren. BUt as I have installed the tri-link rear wit 35's I guess it's straight to trophy class. Just a bit daunting to have to decide on competing since I haven't even driven her yet?! Will get back to you.
Atleast I've kept my hardtop but I am interested to see what they think about the stock cage?
Can anyone send me a pic of a stock cage, I need one to send off to Tony Price so he can tell us if it will pass or not. Just post a link up here if you have one.
Cheers
Steve
here you go mate
http://maddog.zook.org/d/44762-2/154_5411_IMG.jpg
http://maddog.zook.org/d/44765-2/154_5437_IMG.jpg
good luck
Got this from Tony :)
Steve
It has been agreed to accept the control arms in Touring and the standard cage
Regards Tony
So who's in now?
Cheers
Steve
excellent news
I was at a function with Tony on Sat night,he is referring to the long arm kit.If you run a 3 link or any thing else straigt into trophy.He also said if you need specific details to give him a call.
Oh and BTW I am a starter for this one finally got the heep running again... :roll:
Yep, forgot to mention I was asking about longarms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumbo
Cheers
Steve
so long arms are in touring class???
fair enough...
Does that mean the stock cage will be accepted in trophy aswell?
I asked if the cage would be accepted, not in reference to any class, so I guess it's fine for all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by AJ
Cheers
Steve