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    Hi Rich,

    Couple of questions:
    - What tyre pressures were you running?
    - Did you turn off the ESP, either just with the switch on the dash (hold it for 7 seconds I think) or through some other means?

    If it was struggling then perhaps you could have dropped a few more psi out of the tyres.
    Also, while I've heard the diesels do quite well on the sand in 4Hi, the petrol may be better in 4Lo as they don't produce as much torque, especially if it's that hot and the sand is so soft.
    Lastly, and most importantly, you absolutely have to turn off the ESP when driving on sand otherwise it is constantly detecting spinning wheels, then tries to brake those wheels or reduce engine power. Both of those make it even harder to move forward so you stomp down harder and it just gets worse and worse. That will drive the temperatures up massively. There have been a few cases in the states of petrol JK's (they're all petrol in the states) setting on fire while driving on sand and that is suspected to be the cause. That's obviously a very extreme scenario but you get the point, you need to turn ESP off. I think by holding the switch for 7 seconds it only disables it until you next turn off the car. Once you re-start then you need to turn ESP off again.

    I think it's just about finding the right set up (tyre pressures, gearing etc) for the conditions as most say the JK's do well on the sand, especially with the stock tyres on.

    One other thing, did you leave it in D or did you use 1 or 2? Might be an idea to leave it in 2 and only put it in D if you need to drive over 50km/hr or so, or are driving on firmer sand. By leaving it in D I suspect it'll keep the torque converter unlocked for more of the time and that will also generate a lot more heat in the transmission. Keep in 2 and the torque converter will lock up much earlier and that'll keep the temps down better.

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    ESP KILL SWITCH

    Not sure if this will help but I've been told that it does. Def gonna do it to ours when we order our '15 JK. Going for the sports + Poison Spider, me thinks.

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    Hahaha, no no. I'd be happy just to goto Stockton..

    Soft sand saps a lot of power, low tyre pressures are a must, I,d say 18-20psi max, and then lower sone more if your still struggling, and low range makes life easier for the transmission and engine... It's a drain even walking across soft sand, so a 2.5ton (ish) 4x4 is gonna feel the burn!


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    Thanks for your thoughts everyone.
    I am keen to try again for sure. Tires were down to 18psi, didn't want to go any lower with just my mate and I there.
    I tried to switch ESP off, but obviously didnt hold the button long enough, and then assumed it couldn't be switched off in 4H. Looking back, I can recall ESP was flashing like mad on the dash, and my friend was adamant that ESP should be off.
    I was definitely harder on the gas than the ranger, and left the Auto in D.
    So a few lessons learnt and can't wait to try some different approaches next time, firstly using 4L.
    cheers,
    rich

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    18psi is good place to start but in really soft sand I'm guessing you could go lower if needed.

    With the ESP, if you just push the button it reduces the intrusiveness of the ESP. This is what is sounds like you did if the light was still flashing. You need to hold for 7 seconds to switch it off completely. That's in 2Hi or 4Hi. ESP is switched off automatically when you use 4Lo.

    I'd give it a go leaving the transmission in 2 if you're in 4Hi and that should help. Probably leave it in D if you're in 4Lo as 2nd won't give you much speed at all and I think the torque converter locks up a lot quicker (if not all the time) in 4Lo anyway.

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    Hi Rich, you need to put an Auto Transmission Cooler on the JKU, I put one on mine at the last toolbox day, cost around $150.00, and a relatively easy job, but a necessary piece of kit on the pre 12 JK's, 16 psi in 245s have found, is the optimum pressure in soft sand ,Hope this helps Doggy Dave...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobbo56 View Post
    Hi Rich, you need to put an Auto Transmission Cooler on the JKU, I put one on mine at the last toolbox day, cost around $150.00, and a relatively easy job, but a necessary piece of kit on the pre 12 JK's, 16 psi in 245s have found, is the optimum pressure in soft sand ,Hope this helps Doggy Dave...
    +1 From memory I was down to about 15 psi when on stock tyres @ Stockton

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    Great, thanks for the info Dave and Dan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richhenning View Post
    Great, thanks for the info Dave and Dan.
    Have you got your lift & sway bar disconnects in yet? Where's the pics?

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    Ha ha , Not yet Dan, waiting to book into ATV soon!

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