rey each have there advantages and disvantages, you like auto i like manual.. for me auto takes fun away from it all... and i have seen first hand what damage mud and water does to an auto i know they are expensive to repair trust me... as for taking off from lights witth no clutch start the car in gear... you may say cant do that in a JK because you need to put your foot on the clutch to start yes but there is a flash at the dealer to take this off... Also I drive my JK hard very hard offroad on road and in the mud people that came out to zig zag will agree i was stuck in the mud for 10mins dumping clutch like crazy forward and reverse and it still feel very good at the foot pedal...